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On Thu, 10 May 2001, Stefan Meretz wrote:

This snippet is from FSFE-mailinglist. There a long discussion about "making
money" and "freedom" took place.

This is the kind of argument where everyone has fixed positions which
are unlikely to change.
For what its worth, personally I feel a license like the one below:
-would not be free
-would confine software which used it within a little ghetto where it
was incompatible with everything under free licenses
-would not be enforceable
-has sections which are meaningless (the author cannot constrain
himself by a license, since he has the copyright, like it or not,
and can always re-release it under a different license)

:-(

Graham
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-------- Original Message --------
Betreff: Re: Logo timeline
Datum: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:10:07 +0200
Von: josX <joshb xs4all.nl>
An: discussion fsfeurope.org


Klaus Schilling wrote:
John Tapsell writes:
 > On Thu, 10 May 2001, you wrote:
 > > 
 > > On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 09:56:24AM +0200, Stefan Meretz wrote:
 > > > Is there a copyleft license preventing from making money with free
 > > > software?
 > > 
 > > No.
 > > 
 > But you can always write one :)

No, you can't, because the software would not be free if its license 
prevented that.

Let's do it.


Draft:

This material is hereby released to the public.  It is not allowed to
be profitting from this material by selling it's use or the material
itself, not profiting in monetary systems, or via services, unrelated
deals or other. This includes the original creator of the material: he 
too must not profit from it, other than in the joy that others use his
creation.  It is not allowed to sell this material in any shape or
form.  It is not allowed to enclose it as gratis with something that
/is/ soled, even if that something is a vital part of it, a medium,
an extra, or if this material is presented as an extra, or a gift.

This material is given away freely by it's maker(s) in the hope it
will bring joy to those who like to use it. Nobody should ever be
forced to use this material, against it's own will because this will
bring sadness to it's makers and they deserve no such fait.

Modifications on this material should also be released to the public,
if not the actual modified material itself because it is logistically
impossible (a modified building can't be shiped to every university
that teaches building buildings), then as much information that exists
or is produceable must be released to recreate it elsewhere, either by the
normal ways information is enchanged, or by making the modified material
available for inspection and learning, so it's can goodies can multiply
itself. When it is possible to multiply the actual modified material
by copying (software), or reproducing it with aids that come close
(photographing a painting/sculptere/device/etc) that should be the
prefered way of action.

There will be ownership and ownership cannot be taken away other than
by the will of the owner to do so. But the owner will not be the owner
of the information about the material he modified, if he/she is not the
original creator of the material, because if he is, he/she has sovereignty
over his/her creation because it would not exist if it was not for him/she.

It is hoped that this licence will not be diverted from it's true spirit,
which is giving for the joy of giving alone.

Jos
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