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Re: [ox-en] Copyleft on Everything?



On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Thomas Uwe Gruettmueller wrote:

Hi Graham

On Sunday 06 April 2003 14:27, Graham Seaman wrote:
You're allowed to summarize, quote from, or excerpt
from someone else's work, copyrighted or not. That's fair use.
I couldn't take that right away from you if I wanted to (which
I most certainly don't).

If someone quotes from a non-free source the resulting text will 
not be compatible with copyleft licenses like the GPL or GFDL.

Can you expand on that? If it's right, then there is something badly
wrong with the GFDL. The majority of things people say have no license
attached to them; there's just the basic assumption that they have
copyright, since it's automatic. So if I include a quote like 'Donald
Rumsfeld said " we will go on to complete annihilation of the enemy"'
in an essay, are you saying I can't then put the essay under the GFDL?


Besides that, AFAIK (and IANAL), the German Authors Rights Law 
allows quotes only in scientific texts. This means that it would 
be illegal to distribute poems that consist of quotes from your 
essays, or pop songs that contain samples of your speech. 

You don't mean illegal - you mean the copyright holder can choose to sue 
you if he/she wants, not that the police can come and arrest you for it if 
they notice the poem.

Even then, I don't believe it - newspapers aren't really scientific texts,
and even German newspapers quote people all the time, don't they?

This whole discussion seems to be assuming that we have been completely
defeated already, that IP laws already control all of our lives. I think
this is paranoid. Since in every other area we are trying to resist
extension of IP laws, why accept the most outrageous claims by IP law
proponents in something as absolutely basic as simple written discussion
of ideas. Should I attach a copy of the gfdl to this and every email I
write to allow people to quote it in reply?

best, 
Graham


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