Re: [ox-en] Re: Primacy of State
- From: Adam Moran <adam diamat.org.uk>
- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:39:20 +0100
hi stefan, hi list
I. State
Stefan Merten wrote:
Adam: Could you explain what Telos means (to you)?
the final form / shape of content ... but this misses the trick ... i'm
going to have to quote aristotle again, sorry
"What grows ? Growing grows from something into something.
What then is growing ? Not that from which it arose but that to which it
tends."
telos to me means "that to which it tends"
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Adam Moran wrote:
2. Primacy of State
First of all: What do you mean by "state"?
every community has the telos to be a state of some kind ;) - a state is
a fully developed community; it is a political community
I think a GPL society will not have something
similar to a state - at least not of the kind we know now.
there is another greek word i know that describes a state which
resonates this thought - it is 'eudaimonia' ('happiness' or 'human
florishing') ... the telos of human action as described in aristotle's
Nicomachaean Ethics
II. Politics
i wrote:
If the Politics of the new 'global-unfolded-community-state' is not a
Politics of Class, then what is it ?
My guess is that its the Politics of Potentials; firstly the potential
of the 'global-unfolded-community-state' to define and build its telos /
vapor-ware, and secondly the potential of the 'unfolded-individual' to
a. know how they can help out in the process, and
b. enjoy the common wealth of the state
stefan wrote:
I am not sure whether I understand what you are talking about.
Is it that you are talking about:
Last week (11 days ago) Adam Moran wrote:
what are the politics, the relationship between the 'I' and the 'We', of
our new states ?
yes
If so I think the thread on OHA/ODA are very relevant to your
question.
ok - is OHA/ODA a name for our new politics ?
--
adam
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