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Re: [ox-en] Re: The powerful abstraction of purposeless things



Really whether I find it acceptable or not doesnt really matter as we are all 
.... free ... 
1. I dont hink anyone should take anythingpersonally - I think you and I are 
over that - yeh?

2. I don't know if we can find a cover all term. You see things like the gift 
economy to describe indigenous communites just overlooks the realtionships 
and I feel idealise what went on in a worryign wway. But thast my positionadn 
that of the Aboriginal people I worked a lot with. they would just laugh at 
the gift economy idea. So I dont know. To me they are just indigenous 
economies. 

Let me think some more but I gotta rush and catch a plane ... just think the 
list will be safe from me for a few days maybe!!!


a Euskal Herria ez Maketolandia (es para ti Martin en Argentina!!)

Agur 
Zorionak
Urte Berri on eta eskerek asko

Tintxu




On Friday 19 December 2003 14:37, Graham Seaman wrote:
Hi Martin

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Martin Hardie wrote:
I find the gift economy ideas of indigenous culture very old, rascist and
distasteful

If I want to describe the economy of cultures which do not have classes
is there any term you would find acceptable? The 19th century term used
to be 'primitive communism'. 'Gift economy' was one replacement for that.

Or is the whole idea of using a single term for many different societies
whose only common feature is that they do not have classes wrong?

Personally, I like to have some such term - it is a stand against the
universalizing pretensions of marginalist economics, which thinks that
everyone at all times and places acts in terms of 'opportunity costs'.

But none of those pertains to you but from where the ideas come
I do dasagree that these purposeless things did not support life. They
do. That is my point.

I'm happy with that particular point.

Graham

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