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Re: [ox-en] Criticism on Wikipedia governance process



Hi Zbignieuw,
 
I met some of them, and reported on it in our blog and wiki,

they now shifted their attention to collaborating with the bewelcome platform, which they consider more open,

Michel


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From: Zbigniew Lukasiak <zzbbyy gmail.com>
To: list-en oekonux.org
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:34:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ox-en] Criticism on Wikipedia governance process

It is stunning how this criticism looks similar to that of
http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/.

Z.

On Jan 9, 2008 9:46 PM, Stefan Merten  wrote:
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Hi!

People here might remember that I once said that the
perceived

 quality
problems in Wikipedia and their resolution are a very interesting
problem and the outcome will probably shed some light on peer
governance in general.

The following from Michel is published on

      

 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/is-something-fundamentally-wrong-with-wikipedia-g
overnance-processes/2008/01/07

and for me is one contribution to that governance process.


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The Wikipedia is often hailed as a prime example of peer
production

 and peer
governance, an example of how a community can self-govern
very

 complex
processes. Including by me.

But it is also increasingly showing the dark side and pitfalls
of

 purely
informal approaches, especially when they scale.

Wikipedia is particularly vulnerable because it's work is not done
in

 teams,
but by individuals with rather weak links. At the same time it
is

 also a
very complex project, with consolidating social norms and rules,
and

 with an
elite that knows them, vs. many occasional page writers who
are

 ignorant of
them. When that system then instaures a scarcity rule, articles
have

 to be
'notable' or they can be deleted. It creates a serious imbalance.

While the Wikipedia remains a remarkable achievement, and escapes
any

 easy
characterization of its qualities because of its sheer
vastness,

 there must
indeed be hundreds of thousands of volunteers doing good work
on

 articles,
it has also created a power structure, but it is largely 'invisible',
opaque, and therefore particularly vulnerable to the
well-known

 tyranny of
structurelessness .

Consider the orginal thoughts of Jo Freeman:

"*Contrary to what we would like to believe, there is no such
thing

 as a
'structureless' group. Any group of people of whatever nature coming
together for any length of time, for any purpose, will
inevitably

 structure
itself in some fashion. The structure may be flexible, it may
vary

 over
time, it may evenly or unevenly distribute tasks, power and
resources

 over
the members of the group. But it will be formed regardless of
the

 abilities,
personalities and intentions of the people involved. The very
fact

 that we
are individuals with different talents, predispositions
and

 backgrounds
makes this inevitable. Only if we refused to relate or interact
on

 any basis
whatsoever could we approximate 'structurelessness' and that is
not

 the
nature of a human group*."

Consider also this
warning
:

"*Every group of people with an unusual goal - good, bad, or silly
-

 will
trend toward the cult attractor unless they make a constant effort
to

 resist
it. You can keep your house cooler than the outdoors, but you have
to

 run
the air conditioner constantly, and as soon as you turn off
the

 electricity
- - give up the fight against entropy - things will go back
to

 "normal".*

*In the same sense that every thermal differential wants to
equalize

 itself,
and every computer program wants to become a collection of
ad-hoc

 patches,
every Cause wants to be a cult. It's a high-entropy state into
which

 the
system trends, an attractor in human psychology.*

*Cultishness is quantitative, not qualitative. The question is
not

 "Cultish,
yes or no?" but "How much cultishness and where?*"

The Wikicult  website
asserts

 that this
stage has already been reached:

"*With the systems, policies, procedures, committees,
councils,

 processes
and appointed authorities that run Wikipedia, a lot of
intrinsic

 power goes
around. While most serious contributors devotedly continue
to

 contribute to
the implied idealism, there are those with the communication
and

 political
skill to place themselves in the right place at the right time
and

 establish
even more apparent power. Out of these, a cabal inevitably forms;
the

 rest,
as they say, is history*."

Specialized sites have sprung up, such as the Wikipedia


 Review,
monitoring power abuse in general, or in particular
cases

The Wikipedia Review offers an interesting summary of the
various

 criticisms
that have been leveled agains the Wikipedia, which I'm
reproducing

 here
below, but I'm adding links that document these processes as
well.

 Spend on
time on reading the allegations, their documentation, and make
up

 your own
mind.

My conclusion though is that major reforms will be needed to
insure

 the
Wikipedia governance is democratic and remains so.

*1. Wikipedia disrespects and disregards scholars,
experts,

 scientists, and
others with special knowledge.*

Wikipedia specifically disregards authors with special
knowledge,

 expertise,
or credentials. There is no way for a real scholar to
distinguish

 himself or
herself from a random anonymous editor merely claiming scholarly
credentials, and thus no claim of credentials is typically
believed.

 Even
when credentials are accepted, Wikipedia affords no special
regard

 for
expert editors contributing in their fields. This has driven
most

 expert
editors away from editing Wikipedia in their fields.
Similarly,

 Wikipedia
implements no controls that distinguish mature and educated
editors

 from
immature and uneducated ones.

Critique of Wikipedia's open source ideology, as opposed to
free

 software


 principles
ies/>

*2. Wikipedia's culture of anonymous editing and
administration

 results in a
lack of responsible authorship and management.*

Wikipedia editors may contribute as IP addresses, or as
an

 ever-changing set
of pseudonyms. There is thus no way of determining conflicts
of

 interest,
canvassing, or other misbehaviour in article editing. Wikipedia's
adminsitrators are similarly anonymous, shielding them from
scrutiny

 for
their actions. They additionally can hide the history of
their

 editing (or
that of others).

*3. Wikipedia's administrators have become an entrenched
and

 over-powerful
elite, unresponsive and harmful to authors and contributors. *

Without meaningful checks and balances on
administrators,

 administrative
abuse is the norm, rather than the exception, with blocks and
bans

 being
enforced by fiat and whim, rather than in implementation of
policy.

 Many
well-meaning editors have been banned simply on suspicion of being
previously banned users, without any transgression, while others
have

 been
banned for disagreeing with a powerful admin's editorial point
of

 view.
There is no clear-cut code of ethics for administrators, no truly
independent process leading to blocks and bans, no process for
appeal

 that
is not corrupted by the imbalance of power between admin and
blocked

 editor,
and no process by which administrators are reviewed regularly for
misbehaviour.

Overview
of

 developments

The blog Nonbovine ruminations critically
monitorsWikipedia
governance

The Wikipedia has stopped growing because of the deletionists:


 Andrew
rticles-celebrate/>


 Lih
/>;
Slate


Wikipedia's abusive bio-deletion process: case by Tony
Judge

*4. Wikipedia's numerous policies and procedures are not
enforced

 equally on
the community โ€” popular or powerful editors are
often

 exempted*.

Administrators, in particular, and former administrators,
are

 frequently
allowed to trangress (or change!) Wikipedia's numerous
"policies",

 such as
those prohibiting personal attacks, prohibiting the release
of

 personal
information about editors, and those prohibiting collusion
in

 editing.

The undemocratic practices of its investigative


 committee
html>

A
personal

 experience
cult.html>

The badsites list  of
censored

 sites
belonging to Wikipedia's enemies

Lack of transparency and
accountability

 

The
Judd

 Bagleycase

InformationLiberation on Wikipedia's totalitarian
universe

5. *Wikipedia's quasi-judicial body, the Arbitration
Committee

 (ArbCom) is
at best incompetent and at worst corrupt*.

ArbCom holds secret proceedings, refuses to be bound by
precedent,

 operates
on non-existant or unwritten rules, and does not allow equal
access

 to all
editors. It will reject cases that threaten to undermine
the

 Wikipedia
status quo or that would expose powerful administrators to
sanction,

 and
will move slowly or not at all (in public) on cases it is
discussing

 in
private.

Monitoring of ArbCom's
activities

Summary
of

 criticisms
tion-committee-doesnt-matter/>

The case of the secret mailing list for top insiders 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/04/wikipedia_secret_mailing/

*6. The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF), the organization
legally

 responsible for
Wikipedia, is opaque, is poorly managed, and is
insufficiently

 independent
from Wikipedia's remaining founder and his business interests.*

The WMF lacks a mechanism to address the concerns of
outsiders,

 resulting in
an insular and socially irresponsible internal culture. Because of
inadequate oversight and supervision, Wikimedia has hired
incompetent

 and
(in at least one case) criminal employees. Jimmy Wales'
for-profit

 business
Wikia benefits in numerous ways from its association with
the

 non-profit
Wikipedia.

The Foundation's


 budget


Wikimedia chairwoman rejects demand for


 transparency
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