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Re: [ox-en] Digital Utopianism



Christoph Reuss wrote:
Dmytri Kleiner quoted and wrote:

  From: Stefan Merten <smerten oekonux.de>
  Oekonux has nothing to do with class struggle in any meaning I know of


i.e. this quote from the smarter Stefan, Stefan Meretz:

   "I am not interested in solutions for some partial groups on costs of
    others."

Oekonux imagines that we can help the robbed without costing the robbers!

No, I think you misinterpret that quote. Simply exchanging roles by letting the formerly oppressed-ones rule (and oppress) the former oppressors is not a solution, as it perpetuates the conflict itself. A solution needs to take into account everybody.

This sums up very well also why the Producer/Predator debate on Oekonux
was doomed to fail.  The robbers must be pleased.

I don't agree on that one, either (as you may remember). The whole Producer / Predator dichotomy was rather shallow, and didn't allow to transcendent definitions of oppressor and oppressed (or whatever vocabulary you choose).

Oekonux will never be as large a movement
as even the smallest, most obscure and most cranky branch of Socialism.

How do you see the relationship between Oekonux and the OpenSource movement?

It seems to me Oekonux is as diverse and heterogeneous as is the bunch of people somehow involved into FLOSS. I wouldn't even call the latter a 'movement'...

Regards,
		Stefan

--

      ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin...
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