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Re: [ox-en] Re: "At Cost"



Hi Patrick!

Last week (8 days ago) Patrick Anderson wrote:
This is my pattern for a public utility.

. The collective owning consumers are "we the people".

. Each owning-consumer pays his portion of all his real costs incurred.

. Each non-owning-consumer pays his portion of all his real costs
incurred and also pays profit which is invested for him in MORE
sources of that kind of production.

That really sounds to me like just another attempt to modify
capitalism a bit instead of overcoming it. In fact your model reminds
me very much of state socialism - may be more the Yugoslavian variant
thereof.

The basic problem of your approach like every approach based on
abstract capitalism is that you use capitalist concepts like scarcity.
Yes, cost makes only sense under conditions of scarcity. Why should I
think about costs if I have ampleness?

Peer production, however, is based on different basic principles -
namely Selbstentfaltung and openness. You can do away with your mind
games if you take that into account. If not I'd suggest that we just
stay with capitalism because on your principles it is already the best
system.


						Grüße

						Stefan

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