[ox-en] Re: Athina Karatzogianni * Confronting the difficulties of learning from the open source for contemporary social movements
- From: Stefan Merten <smerten oekonux.de>
- Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:26:22 +0200
Hi Athina, list!
6 days ago Stefan Merten wrote:
Confronting the difficulties of learning from the open source for contemporary social movements
I'm sorry to say this but I had hoped to learn more about this topic.
Unfortunately I had decided for another talk during the conference and
the slides gave me little clue :-/ .
Well, especially after I prepared the talk_ about social / solidarity
economy I'm more convinced than ever that classical social movements
and peer production is no more compatible with each other than
capitalism and peer production. Well, in fact I'm still wrestling with
this relationship. I think I understood something so far but feel it
is not yet complete.
.. _talk: http://en.wiki.oekonux.org/Oekonux/Research/SocialEconomyOrPeerProduction
What makes peer production appealing to the social movements - and me
when I started this whole adventure - are the means this new mode of
production uses. These means are, however, the goals of the social
movements. Insofar they have something in common but in a rather
unexpected and weird way...
Well, I think that peer production implements the value set of social
movements though the social movements did absolutely not anticipate
how this could happen - and thus they tend to be sceptical or even
ignorant to what happens in peer production...
Social movements and their use of the internet
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[...]
Hacktivism
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[...]
Dotcauses
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Indymedia Pickard 2006
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Why invest in social movements? Why social movements use FOSS
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[...]
Difficulties of using FOSS
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IMHO all these things have a rather instrumental relation to any type
of technology. Insofar the particular technology doesn't matter much
[1]_.
.. [1] That BTW is also a common way of thinking in the Chaos Computer
Club (CCC) which has a rather instrumental relation to Free
Software - at least 8 years ago. In a way the CCC is also a
classical social movement - though it is totally committed to
the most modern technology...
Conclusion
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* De Landa:
* What matters about the open source movement is not so much the
intentional actions of its main protagonists, actions which are
informed by specific philosophies, but its unintended collective
consequences
That is probably something I can agree with easily :-) .
Grüße
Stefan
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