Re: [jox] Scientific committee
- From: jmp <m.pedersen lancaster.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:47:08 +0100
On 24/08/11 14:03, Mathieu ONeil wrote:
[snip]
Nope, commons is _not_ opposed to private property:
http://www.keimform.de/2010/commons-in-a-taxonomy-of-goods/
Hi Stefan
I had a look at your text but was not illuminated, could you please provide a more precise reference - thanks.
I don't think that Stefan and I approach this from the exact same angle,
but we arrive at similar conclusions.
For instance, Free Software is based on Copyleft, which is based on
copyright - or is a set of sub-clauses added to copyright - which is a
form of (private) property. The FSF, of course, calls it "policy", which
is, at best, an idiosyncratic position that refuted here in this essay
excerpt:
http://commoning.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/is-copyright-policy-or-property-a-critique-of-the-fsfs-position/
The rights and privileges afforded in law by the concept of private
property is a very good tool for building commons, as the GPL is a very
good example of.
In other words, (private) property is a great tool for commoning and
when property has been configured by practices of commoning it
transcends the futile property-antiproperty debates of the last 150
years and reveals property as the meaningful and useful tool for
organisation that it is - one to organise relations between people with
regard to things. Commoning revolves around property, which is not a
"thing", but a way to organise relations.
Commons need (at least something like) private property to be able to
exclude those who do not play by the rules - hence the GPL defaults to
copyright, i.e. ther GPL is rendered invalid and copyright comes into
play as a means of exclusion, if you do not play by the rules of the GPL.
In a lot more detail here:
‘Free Software as Property’, The Commoner, Special Issue, Volume 14,
Winter 2010, 211-286:
http://commoning.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/the-commoner-14-winter-2010-chapter3.pdf
and here:
‘Properties of Property: A Jurisprudential Analysis‘, The Commoner,
Special Issue, Volume 14, Winter 2010, 137-210:
http://commoning.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/the-commoner-14-winter-2010-chapter2.pdf
-martin
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