Re: SpamAssassin and OHA (was: [ox-en] SpamAssassin (was: OHA/ODA in English))
- From: Graham Seaman <graham seul.org>
- Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:36:07 -0500 (EST)
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Martin Hardie wrote:
On Monday 15 December 2003 15:33, Graham Seaman wrote:
In other words, you would replace censorship with self-censorship and
external discipline with internal discipline...
sounds like Foucault/ Deleuze: from societies of discipline to societies of
control
I never read anything by Deleuze, and the only relevant thing from
Foucault I've read is Discipline and Punish - but going by that, the
impression I have is that they associate this kind of internal control
with capitalism. To me it seems that internal control in 'normal'
capitalism (as opposed to fascist dictatorships, or ex 'really existing
socialism') is not that successful: you can always find rebels, just
because lots of things still are controlled by rules, and not internal.
Where it is really successful is in small scale societies, villages where
life tends to be shared, the antithesis of capitalism, gift economies
even.. The kind of society where gossip rules (and fear of being gossiped
about creates the internal controls). The kind of society where people
might end up commenting 'hmm.. you know her, SHE hasn't written much free
software lately... in danger of being alienated from the group she is'
(oops.. slipped into Yodaese)
Graham
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