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Peer production is predicated on free participation and universal access to its products.
  
  When participation is no longer free, but depends on remuneration, and  when this remuneration is dependent on the marketplace, I guess we are  then talking about a renewed form of cooperatives, which have always  been obliged to work in the market.
  
  For peer production however, there can be no direct link, as that would  be re-introducing a form of alienation (working for money). The only  solution to preserve the freedom of the producer is to have no direct  link between remuneration and the choice of action. A generalized  universal income would be the best solution for this. In the meantime,  we can think of devices that do not create a to direct link. Lotteries,  paying back expenses, giving an equal amount to participants beyond a  certain treshold of participation? Or creating a split between pure  peer production, and a cooperative which acts in the market responding  to specific requests?
  
  Michel

Markus <markus vodes.net> wrote:  Hej Per,

Well, there is the problem. You think the purpose of open source
applications should be to generate money and be a success in the
marketplace.

i dont think we disagree on the fundamental goal... id like to see people  
using gimp instead of photoshop and
openoffice instead of word.

but imo this is inseparably linked to market forces. perhaps we disagree  
on the way there? i think generation of money is essential if one wants to  
achieve this. but im not sure to what extent this goes hand in hand with  
"careful accounting" and "anxious property protection".

there is open accounting  
(http://www.vodes.net/revstartshere/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=11&Itemid=133)  
and transparency (work in progress) but this is more to ensure that the  
money is indeed spend for the cause and does not go into the wrong pockets.

i dont think there is much "property protection" though. could you  
elaborate what you mean with that?

you made a couple of very good points regarding steering of a community.  
of course, i dont know if the idncc really provides for a better, fair and  
more effectivce community governance scheme; but i know there is only one  
way to find out. worst case, you end up knowning that its defenitely not  
the right thing to do. :)

i think ive talked enough about our project on this list. if someone is  
interested in providing critism, suggestions for improvements or working  
with us, please dont hesitate to drop me a line.

apologies to the others for the spam. :)

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