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This is not directly related to the contribution, but to the general topic.
  
  I once read a book Liberal Communism, by Dominique Pelbois.
  
  Innovative in this utopian scheme, was the integration of consumers in  the decision-making process of enterprises. In other words, they would  be co-owned by producers and consumers.
  
  I think that this is a very valid point. The community in free software  should not just be those that contribute, but those that use it. This  avoids any selfishness in policy making. The market then becomes the  internal dialogue of the community, rather than an external impersonal  mechanism.
  
  In June, when I will start thinking about a governance process for the  p2p foundation, I will certainly strive to integrate the community of  users, into the governance process.
  
  Michel

Markus <markus vodes.net> wrote:  there are two issues here:

1), who should get something and how much in the case of the mozilla  
foundation;
2), whether there should be a "killer application" open source software to  
the benefit of the whole community; not owned by a private entity but by  
representatives of the community. now, i see this list as an appropriate  
(because its long term) forum to pose this question.

dont get paid) yet they dont get anything back.

That's bullshit. They get back improvements and bugfixes to firefox,

as for 1), true and defenitely you have a valid point. you very well can  
be satisfied with this. and given the upfront investment of aol this seems  
indeed fair. however, i have to admit that my desire to see open source  
successful something has a negative impact on my objectivity. apologies.  
luckily there are people like you who reveal this.

regarding 2, personally, i believe that a browser with such revenue  
potential could be of much more help to the overall success of open  
source. but i see that not many inhere share this believe. perhaps over  
time ill see if im wrong. right now im stubborn.

paid for by the ad revenue and donations. 40(?) members of staff don't
work for free you know.

i specifically mentioned the beta testers and not the 35 staff members of  
the mozilla for-profit corporation. as i said, i asked for some insight  
how many people (beta tester, people who write translations, extenstions  
etc) invest their time into the development of mozilla for no exchange of  
money.








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