Re: [ox-en] There is no such thing like "peer money"
- From: Raoul <raoulv club-internet.fr>
- Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:55:07 +0100
Hi Paul, Hi all,
Sorry for the delay.
Paul Cockshott wrote:
Raoul wrote:
But, what about money? If symmetric exchange is absent from the main
economic mechanism in the peer sector, is it absent from the whole
society in transition? As I said in the first part of this text,
there will be inevitably a coexistence of the peer sector and the
remaining of capitalist and even pre-capitalist forms. The exchange
between the different sectors will certainly tend to be, at least at
the beginning, a symmetric exchange. And thus, a mean of exchange, a
sort of money will be required.
Why do you assume that capitalist production remains?
I am considering a period of transition. The 4th step in the Five step
model. The germ form is becoming the dominant one. More and more
material means of production are becoming part of the commons and are
collectively managed according to peer principles. Whatever the shape
this process takes: progressive evolution or abrupt revolutions (most
probably both), it will take some time to spread all over the world. It
seams realistic to think that for a period of time (the shortest the
best) geographical zones, countries will remain under the old capitalist
relations of production.
Why not assume that some form of cooperative production remains?
It depends on the meaning you give to "cooperative production". Usually
cooperatives are defined as something within capitalism, within markets.
"A business owned and controlled equally by the people who use its
services or who work at it" (Wikipedia). Cooperatives change the
relationships in the organization of their internal activities, but they
buy their input and sell their output. In fact, cooperative producers
are "their own capitalists", as said Marx. As such, they are not
contradictory or exclusive to capitalist remains.
Raoul
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