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Re: [ox-en] There is no such thing like "peer money"



Hi Paul, Hi all,
Sorry for the delay.

Paul Cockshott wrote:

Raoul wrote:
But, what about money? If symmetric exchange is absent from the main economic mechanism in the peer sector, is it absent from the whole society in transition? As I said in the first part of this text, there will be inevitably a coexistence of the peer sector and the remaining of capitalist and even pre-capitalist forms. The exchange between the different sectors will certainly tend to be, at least at the beginning, a symmetric exchange. And thus, a mean of exchange, a sort of money will be required.
Why do you assume that capitalist production remains?

I am considering a period of transition. The 4th step in the Five step model. The germ form is becoming the dominant one. More and more material means of production are becoming part of the commons and are collectively managed according to peer principles. Whatever the shape this process takes: progressive evolution or abrupt revolutions (most probably both), it will take some time to spread all over the world. It seams realistic to think that for a period of time (the shortest the best) geographical zones, countries will remain under the old capitalist relations of production.
Why not assume that some form of cooperative production remains?
It depends on the meaning you give to "cooperative production". Usually cooperatives are defined as something within capitalism, within markets. "A business owned and controlled equally by the people who use its services or who work at it" (Wikipedia). Cooperatives change the relationships in the organization of their internal activities, but they buy their input and sell their output. In fact, cooperative producers are "their own capitalists", as said Marx. As such, they are not contradictory or exclusive to capitalist remains.

Raoul



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