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Re: Unsustainable peer production? (was: Re: [ox-en] Re: The Future of Un-Money // was "Re: There IS such a thing as peer money")



You can give anything for free and get anything for free. However, youcannot just give for free while getting nothing for free.
In order to continue to exist, biologically speaking, you need to takein as much energy as you spend. Or else you get really thin, stave anddie. Same thing for peers (in any type of economic model), i.e.:*****they must get in energy as much as they spend***
"How do you exchange things for free" is not the question because youcan do it based on Karma or expectation of a generalized exchange(giving and receiving from a common pool) or barter ...
The question is how do you assure the most efficient flow of energybetween peers (as universal currency as well as electricity) in such away that you minimize deficit/surplus inequalities in energy (ascurrency and as electricity) between all peers.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Stefan Merten <smerten oekonux.de> wrote:> Hi Marc and all!>> Last week (8 days ago) marc fawzi wrote:>> P2P social theories that recognize the need for energy to flow, as>> potentialenergy, between the people, machines and infrastructure,>> with a non-zerocost of energy production and distribution, must also>> recognize that peerproduction systems cannot *sustainably* support>> the free "giving away" ofproducts, services and resources.>> Why?>> What do you think is not sustainable without being constrained by> exchange? Why?>> Could you think of different means to constrain the use of this thing?>>>                                                Grüße>>                                                Stefan> _________________________________> Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/> Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/> Contact: projekt oekonux.de>�������������������������{��0����{������jب���0����{��zK�����#zK����


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