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Thanks Mathieu, 
re future content, I know how hard it is to get good content, when editing 
another journal that was very much on the fringes of international academic 
publishing (NZ Sociology) we had to run special issues often, targeting people 
as the material that we got from general calls was in general pretty poor, as 
people kept sending
their best stuff to the so called 'top ranked' refereed journals and would send 
us their second bests, treating us like some sort of dumping ground for 
half-baked thoughts/research.  Just a thought for one way to go, commissioning 
special issues editors to initially target material.

From: MathieuONeil <mathieu.oneil>
To: journal
Sent: Wed, 13 April, 2011 5:38:54 AM
Subject: Re: [jox] Strategy / Content

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Hi Lincoln

Thanks for your comment, and sorry for my late reply. I was in two minds about 
this as on the one hand any contributions is very welcome but on the other I was 
sort of hoping that homegrown talent would be there for the project... I'm also 
wondering about a specific direction / theme we could define with this person? 
So def. something to be explored more, please go ahead and let us know what 


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From: lincoln dahlberg <l.j.dahlberg>
Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: [jox] Strategy / Content
To: journal

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Hi Mathieu,

Invitations to personal contacts that we know are completing 
specific relevant 
work might work well. 

For example, Joss Hands has recently published @ is for activism 
and is active 
in some public discussions, like everyone he is rather busy with 

issues of restructuring etc, but might be able to pull something 
together with 
respect to his recent thinking.  I can directly ask him, 
and if he can't, to 
invite him
to pass on the invitation, is there an informal process for 
doing so? 


From: MathieuONeil <mathieu.oneil>
To: journal
Sent: Sun, 10 April, 2011 10:14:01 AM
Subject: [jox] Strategy / Content

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Hi all

It has been such a long hiatus in communication that it feels 
weird to speak up 

I was hoping to announce that the revised version of my paper on 
WP and critique 
was finished, but it still needs a bit of work. It has come a 
long way though, 
thanks  again to the reviewers.

Will post the reviews along with the finished revision.

The other research paper (on the Swedish file sharing) is also 
being reworked, 
hopefully finished soon?

Once all that is done we will be ready to (finally aargh) 
formally announce our 
existence to the world and issue our Call For Papers based on 
our initial 
offering which consists of:

-two research papers (one by the editor)
-two conference reports
-three debate papers (one by the editor)

Quality-wise it will be good but in terms of numbers it is 
pretty thin gruel. 

Now, CSPP is a distinctive publication because of two things:
-its political angle (peer production blah blah SOCIAL CHANGE)
-its publication and review process (more on that in another email)

So for me at the end of the day I don't mind spending x hours 
working on a paper 
for this journal even though I know at this point it is not 
exactly a top-notch 
impact factor investment and even though it might look weird for 
the editor to 
be authoring so much content - its the right thing to do, I 
believe in it etc

But - its not sustainable for me to do this alone. 

More importantly, we need more "juice" in our initial CFP..

So what I was thinking is: bouncing off on the suggestion made a 
few months ago 
- on the CFP, we need a big old bunch of (additional / 
associate) editors who 
have good cred on their topic and are willing to sherpa a couple 
papers, plus 
maybe write one (or at least an intro) themselves for a special 
issue. By 
"sherpa" I do not simply mean waiting for the papers to trickle 
in but rather 
actively seeking out and approaching potential authors 
(precisely what I did for 
the Swedish file sharing paper).

Based on previous interactions and known interests here is a 
tentative list of 
possible candidates (any other persons interested and competent 
please let it be 

[Feminism? Ecology?]

Debian, free software?

Hardware hacking, political economy?


Critical theory?*


File sharing, piracy?


Free software?

Economics of peer production?

Political economy?

  Organisation, expertise?

So, what do those people think? I can't think of any other way 
to imbue energy 
and appeal to the project.



* There is a lot of interest in critical theory in Internet 
studies these days. 
Christian Fuchs just published a book on the topic (have not 
read it yet) and 
Jeremy Hunsinger (a US academic, active in AOIR) released a CFP
for sub-editors 
a month ago on "CT and the Internet" for a long-term online
publication. I 
contacted him to tell him about CSPP and ask whether a joint 
publication might 
be in order ("CT and PP"), and he responded that he did not 
cross-publication was a good idea. I still think duplicating the 
effort seems 
silly and do not despair of bringing him around eventually... 
something to think 

----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Merten <smerten>
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:04 pm
Subject: [jox] Re: Blanking sheet
To: journal

Hi all!

I'm sorry that I need to come back to this, but I don't accept that
I'm accused of things which exist only in the heads of others.

I guess it is this snippet Mathieu relates to...

2 weeks (15 days) ago MathieuONeil wrote:
However _right now_ I and most others are focused on getting the
journal out. What I should have said is: "We need a 'time 
out' for
the process stuff. Let's come back to it once we have accomplished
the immediate goal."

...when he says (on [jox-tech]):

6 days ago MathieuONeil wrote:
What I strongly
objected to was dealing with this through endless debate 
_right now_
at the expense of content production:

That whole point got my attention two weeks ago when Mathieu said
similar things but I thought it would be better not to respond.
However, I'm not ready to accept pointless accusations.

So to make this finally clear: It was *not me* who wanted an endless
debate. I just needed a basis for starting an implementation. 
I also
wrote this (here on this list):

14 months (420 days) ago Stefan Merten wrote:
After getting somewhat confused I decided to write down a 
few things
and while writing them down structure them. From my 
in the
software business it is always a good idea to look first at the
"business" side of things. The result of my considerations 
a couple
of use cases I identified. Please see

At the moment the use cases reflect some more or less 
arbitrary state
in the recent discussion and they are probably not complete.

Please do not misunderstand this page as making a decision. 
It's just
an attempt to write down the complexity somewhere so I can 
transform> > it to technology later. Regardless of what the 
result of this
discussion will be it will be somewhat complex so something 
like this
is needed in any case.
Please have a look. Comments are welcome. (I feel Mathieu
wants to
keep things on this mailing lists instead of the Plone site so
comments are better send here.)

I can't see how this can be understood as an invitation for endless

In fact after a year when Mathieu for a short moment stopped 
ignoring> this it was in fact *he* who needed to debate things. 
It would also
have been possible to simply accept it as is and improve it later.

I really hope this is the last I need to say about this very
unpleasant topic..



Dr Mathieu O'Neil
Adjunct Research Fellow
Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
College of Arts and Social Science
The Australian National University
email: mathieu.oneil[at]

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Dr Mathieu O'Neil
Adjunct Research Fellow
Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
College of Arts and Social Science
The Australian National University
email: mathieu.oneil[at]

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