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Re: [jox] A response to Michel and Jakob

On 03/27/2012 11:36 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
that is indeed the main objection to an approach that imagines an idealized
future situation.

Uh, did you read my mail (or my texts)? They are not about "an idealized
future situation", but about how to go from here to somewhere else (some
unknown future) and how to deal with the problems that will emerge while
doing so.

'real' peer production, i.e. as it exists today, works well for certain
immaterial tasks, but is still reliant on many market mechanisms for its
social reproduction and even  to get things done ...; once it moves to
physical production, that dependence is even bigger,

What are "immaterial tasks"? How is writing software anything more
"immaterial" than, say, cutting hairs?

Also, did you head of open design, FabLabs, 3d printers and open-source CNC
machines, community wireless networks etc.? True, these are largely in their
early infancy, but if you think that peer production is only about
immaterial goods, you are missing a great deal. If we want to reason about
the future, we have to think beyond what already exists today.

Best regards

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