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Re: [ox-en] There is no such thing as "equal exchange" - respect instead of money



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I think that we can't purify human nature with logic.

The P2P Energy Economy model (on P2Pf wiki) goes to extreme lengths in some
areas to make sure that the model's logic supersedes human irrationality (or
the impure nature) but that resulted in one fatal contradiction: people
should be able to give things completely for free without any expectation
(i.e. true generosity) which the model had no way of allowing while also
enforcing equitable exchange. So I've moved away from trying to purify human
nature with logic and resorted to the much more limited goal of enabling
voluntary reciprocal exchanges in immaterial resources that are already
abundant (e.g. digital content) so as to have a participatory protocol that
sustains the abundance of the given resource on scalable basis. That's a
much lower intervention than trying to constrain human behavior... and I'm
still thinking about it...



On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Stefan Noack <noackstefan googlemail.com>wrote:

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Hi,

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi gmail.com> wrote:

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Giving and getting recommendations (or respect) in a reciprocal or
generalized exchange is an ancient common social practice.  I can
recommend
you if you recommend me back, or I can recommend you without expecting
that
you recommend me back. This is a common social practice and can happen as
a
reciprocal exchange or as a generalized (non-reciprocal) exchange.

Someone who is highly political can accumulate a lot of so-called
"respect"
without having any moral or intellectual merit.

Try to solve that!

i.e. how do you ensure that respect in society flows not based on
political
favoritism but based on rational thought.


My idea was to always have the respect coupled to the action it was given
for; your example is a disadvantage of the respect systems that we have
now,
where the motivation for paying respect can become very irrational. Having
the respect together with the reason it was paid for would allow me to
evaluate my personal respect to that person based on my personal standards.
However, i have no idea how this could be implemented practically.

grüße

stefan


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