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Re: [jox] A response to Michel and Jakob

Hi Christian,

"we" is the Oekonux community or a part of it? I know that you don't like my theoretical approach for years - nevertheless it is a Marxian one: Capitalism proved the ability to change its social structures several times in the last 300 years, so isn't it time to speak not only about Open Source, Open Software, Open Design etc., but also about Open Capitalism as a developing new social structuring _within_ capitalism? Thats my major analytical point. The more since there were seroius writings 50 years ago about "Open Society" and one of the main strategical thinking heads of capitalist establishment founded 20 years ago the "Open Society Foundation" with much impact o all the stuff you are discussing.

For me, this has to be _analyzed_, "again and again".


Am 19.03.2012 10:15, schrieb Christian Siefkes:
On 03/18/2012 10:19 PM, Hans-Gert Gräbe wrote:
Hence, surely only a part of Marxian value theory can be "a specific theory
for capitalism". The more, what is capitalism, if there is capitalism after
"the end of capitalims as we know it" (E.Altvater)?

we already know that for you it's "capitalism all the way down" (as Stephen
Hawking would put it), i.e. for you *every* (or at least every future)
society is essentially capitalistic -- value-based, somehow profit-driven
etc. Their's no need in forcing your point by repeating the same shallow
arguments again and again.

Best regards


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