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Franz:

I have a problem with the global village approach. One
of the emerging needs and desires is for worldwide
communication and travel. I agree that an excess of
travel may be unsustainable, but it is also a true and
legitimate desire, coupled with global culture
exchange and the use of foods from other regions.

I agree that prices should reflect real costs. On the
other hand, I'm pretty sure that many do no longer
have the desire to live in close-nit ecovillages.

What do you think?

Michel

--- Franz Nahrada <f.nahrada reflex.at> wrote:

Soenke Zehle schrieb am Freitag, 07. Oktober 2005 um
13:18 +0100:

this is key: "Some resources, such as timber, are
rival generationally, 
since within a generation there is only a limited
supply, but can be 
non-rival in the long-term if exploited at levels
of sustainable yield, 
that is if only income and not capital is
consumed."

This is where all classical economics fails; the
whole idea of achieving 
allocative optima through self-regulating markets
is at odds with any 
thought of futurity, econ theory accommodates this
rather awkwardly 
through fiddling with discount rates for future
use. That's also why, 
imo, ecological economists like Daly (one-time
World Bank dissident who 
was actually much more interesting than Stiglitz,
for example) and 
others like Martinez have turned the problem of
inter-generational 
allocation of resources into a major area of
emphasis,

Soenke

I think it is really difficult to think about
intergenerational allocation
of resources in a time when everybody thinks about
the next quarter
survival.

What I feel Free Modes in agriculture and
cultivation can contribute is a
large incentive of finding out the most appropriate
ways to quickly
regenerate resources needed for our human needs (not
necessarily the ones
of coreporations, as Sabine thoughtfully added).

We have basically two non-rival and almost
non-exhaustive resources:
knowledge and sunlight. if we base the material
aspects of our production
on easy and fast reproduceability of basic
materials, we will see a
predominance of non-rival / non exclusive schemes.

That is the missing link. So one way to resolve it
would be to research
ways humans could be involved more in regenerating
and recultivating
resources. It would work best if they create and
maintain their living
environments by this.

The theory of Global Villages is about a planetary
transformation to a
garden economy, where there is close proximity
between humans and their
resource base, allowing us to push the availability
of any material
resource over the limits of non-rivalness and save
all kinds of physical
transportation costs by allowing local decentralized
production.

How to do it?? look for example here:


http://www.natcap.org/module.php?theDir=discuss&setCookie=yes&pageId=26

Franz



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