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Re: [jox] New submissions and reviewing (was: Re: Accounts created)

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Hi Stefan, all

I think the best would be to have a talk page like on WP for every submission where people can create and respond to different threads, indicating not just their name but also the time of comment - otherwise if people add comments to a text it could very soon become a big mess and hard to find one's way around... We could still have a copy of the submission where actual changes could be included as the process evolves but I think discussion should be kept separate. Just my two cents,

----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Merten <smerten>
Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:25 pm
Subject: [jox] New submissions and reviewing (was: Re: Accounts created)
To: journal

Hi Mathieu and all!

6 days ago Mathieu ONeil wrote:
I have entered a submission in the indicated part of website - 
more of an activist text so not realy ripe for formal review. I 
think what is needed is critique and comments though.

And a way to do this properly. There are mainly these ways which come
to my mind:

1. Use the comments feature

   Plone has a comment feature. At the end of each 
page you can add a
   comment. This allows replies to comments also. 
However, this makes
   it hard to refer to a particular part of the 
reviewed text. Also
   AFAICS comments are not subscribeable so new 
comments are not sent
   by email.

2. Add a `Talk` page

   We could add a `Talk` page to each submission like 
the `Talk` page
   in Wikipedia. Again it is a bit difficult to refer 
to particular

3. Make comments in the submission

   This would mean that the original submission is 
edited by the
   reviewers. Could be done but clutters the original 
submission. In
   any case a reviewer must leave a signature or so.

4. Make comments in a copy of the submission

   We could simply copy a submission to another page 
and ask for
   comments there. That would leave the original 
intact but allows for
   comments in the appropriate places. Again reviewers 
need to leave a
   signature so it is clear who made what comment.

I think option 4 is the best one.

The more I think about it the more I believe that responses, 
dialogue between authors, joint statements etc are what we can 
contribute to the peer production discussion, on top of peer 
reviewed papers natch!

Yes - like Tony suggested.

I think it could be good practice to let everyone on this list 
know whenever people post a substantive paper / comment on the 
website? What do others think?

That is part of what I addressed by

  6 days ago Stefan Merten wrote:
  > There is also the topic of receiving notification for 
changes. I'm
  > looking into a possibility to automatically subscribe a 
group to all
  > changes in a certain sub-tree but have not figured out 
completely how
  > to do this. If you don't want to wait you can subscribe 
yourself by
  > using the "Mail subscription" portlet in the right 
panel. Make sure
  > that you subscribe "Scientific Committee" recursively 
so you get
  > notifications from the whole sub-tree.

Group subscription to a subtree is somewhat difficult - I'm just
asking the developer of the notification tool how he meant his

However, it is easy to set up a fake account with the email 
address of
this list and this way subscribe this whole list to change
notifications. I just did this so changes are at least sent here [#]_.
( Mathieu: Password for user `mlist` is the same as for the mailing

.. [#] Normally this is considered bad practice because subscriptions
   like this should not be done by a mailing list. But 
at the moment
   it is probably better this way.



Dr Mathieu O'Neil
Adjunct Research Fellow
Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
College of Arts and Social Science
The Australian National University
email: mathieu.oneil[at]

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